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smokinscott09

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I am looking to upgrade from my ECB this summer. One of the options I am entertaining is a side box smoker. I have been looking at a few different brands. Anyone have any thoughts on these? My one concern is the lack of a water pan for moisture. I am used to having the water pan in the bottom to add some moisture. Does a side box require more mopping to keep the product moist? Has anyone had a bullet and moved to a side box? If so did you find it an improvement or not?? One advantage I see is having all of your meat accessable rather than on split levels. I would love to hear your thoughts
#1 - December 30, 2009, 05:33:07 pm

AzJohnnyC

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I started with an ECB, then moved on to a Brinkmann SNP. Now I'm Qing mostly on a ProQ bullet. I never had a problem with my offset, and most of the time, don't use any water in my ProQ. It's another debate whether the evaporating water ever permeates the cooking meat.  I think maybe not, and am taking that side. I don't think any of the huge brick pits from back in the day used water pans. Wrapping in foil at the proper time will help. Also, realizing that a dry-looking hunk of meat will turn an the right temp, when the collagen in the meat turns to gelatin. This is when the meat should self-moisten, I believe. Just my opinion from my limited knowledge.
#2 - December 30, 2009, 05:54:38 pm
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#3 - December 30, 2009, 05:58:43 pm
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This is an older Brinkmann Smoke 'n' Pit. The heavier gauge the metal is, the better she'll hold heat. There are plenty of mod threads throughout the internet. Lowering smokestack intake to grill height, a deflector at the fire box opening, and plates along the bottom of the cooking chamber (to even out the heat from side to side) are the three most basic mods. This design has a lid that opens, versus the "clamshell" design, which is basically a bisected drum. On  this one, I could go a couple different routes to add an upper shelf to increase capacity. Temp/fire control is the key with these. Ya have to watch 'em kind of closely--add wood and tend the fire about every hour/hour and a half.
Ah. Water. You can put a pan of water in the smoker by the FB opening, under the grates, if you like.
That's the SFB (side fire box) primer in a nutshell.The bigger they are--Klose/Gator pits etc.--the better they hold heat. But they're bigger, so tending fire and fuel consumption tends to stay the same, or increase, but at a smaller increase compared to size changes. Did that come out OK?

I hope that answers some questions. I got this one for $40 from Craigslist. Someone else here just got a similar design for quite a bit more, but I bet his is heavier, and he has some beautiful Cast Iron grates in his...
Dave

... when the collagen in the meat turns to gelatin. This is when the meat should self-moisten, I believe. Just my opinion from my limited knowledge.

I never thought of it that way. Sounds good to me!
#4 - December 30, 2009, 06:06:08 pm
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I am a relative newbie to the side fire box gig, coming from a cheap-o bullet myself. I'm lovin' it!! Picked me up a Char-Griller Duo with dual rotisserie. I chose to assemble it my self so I could be real familiar with it. I have smoked both with a water pan and without - turkeys and ribs. I couldn't tell them apart for moisture. More space for meat than I know what to do with after working with a bullet for most of my career.

I will say that I do have to watch the temp a little more carefully and more often...but I like doing that anyway, so for me it's not a bother. I'm having a lot of fun experimenting, tinkering, and figuring new things out, as it cooks a whole lot different than my old bullet.

I know I'm not sorry for my choice, and the gang keeps asking for more - so I must be doing something right!

Hope this helps.
#5 - December 30, 2009, 08:16:04 pm

Thom Emery

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They are called "offset smokers"
The next step up is a WSM not this
#6 - December 30, 2009, 08:30:50 pm
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yeah what thom said.  first move up to a wsm THEN go to a offset. hahahahaha
actually both have their advantages. but the wsm is a lot more self sustaining when it comes to maintaining heat. as for me, i am a corrupt offsetter. just the way i was raised. 'course i cook with mesquite too. lol!
#7 - December 30, 2009, 09:29:56 pm
low and slow baby, low and slow

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I also have a Chargriller Duo that I added a smoke box to and made it into a smoker.

It works great for small cooks, but can really cook too much at one time.  Holds heat well though...
#8 - December 30, 2009, 10:24:53 pm
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This is an older Brinkmann Smoke 'n' Pit. The heavier gauge the metal is, the better she'll hold heat. There are plenty of mod threads throughout the internet. Lowering smokestack intake to grill height, a deflector at the fire box opening, and plates along the bottom of the cooking chamber (to even out the heat from side to side) are the three most basic mods. This design has a lid that opens, versus the "clamshell" design, which is basically a bisected drum. On  this one, I could go a couple different routes to add an upper shelf to increase capacity. Temp/fire control is the key with these. Ya have to watch 'em kind of closely--add wood and tend the fire about every hour/hour and a half.
Ah. Water. You can put a pan of water in the smoker by the FB opening, under the grates, if you like.
That's the SFB (side fire box) primer in a nutshell.The bigger they are--Klose/Gator pits etc.--the better they hold heat. But they're bigger, so tending fire and fuel consumption tends to stay the same, or increase, but at a smaller increase compared to size changes. Did that come out OK?

I hope that answers some questions. I got this one for $40 from Craigslist. Someone else here just got a similar design for quite a bit more, but I bet his is heavier, and he has some beautiful Cast Iron grates in his...
Dave

I never thought of it that way. Sounds good to me!
get that bad boy up and runnin!
#9 - December 31, 2009, 11:18:26 pm

azkitch

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I've ignored her since I built the UDS--except for wire wheelin' the firebox and shootin' some paint on it. And gluing the gasket on, which has fallen off. But she did some great turkeys last year!! I need some wood for the front shelf, sometime. And better handles.
#10 - January 01, 2010, 12:35:07 am
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For cooking, lower and slower. For spices, mo' hotter, mo' better. Habaneros rule!

RangerJurena

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I have a "side box" smoker, I'm looking to sell if your looking to buy. 

http://www.texaspitcrafters.com/detail.aspx?ID=13


I need to clean it up, but its in great shape and smokes very well, I'll make you a great deal on it.
#11 - January 01, 2010, 10:08:21 am
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azkitch

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First thing I did in the new year was install the fire box on Eileen. In the dark. By the light of the blue moon. Of course that was after a couple shots of Belvedere Vodka and Jack Single Barrel. Happy New Year!
#12 - January 01, 2010, 11:45:40 am
CBJ # 53779
For cooking, lower and slower. For spices, mo' hotter, mo' better. Habaneros rule!

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