I am going to remove this topic later today as it is not productive to what we have going on here at AZBarbeque and I don't want to promote an event we are not yet supporting. We have to keep our loyalities to those who have helped us get to where we are today. 
Mike, I hear what you are saying, but I would not remove the topic if I were you. Perhaps put it in some other forum (because you are correct, it has nothing to do with AZ Barbeque future events), but removing it and pretending it is not an issue is not the right or honest approach in my opinion.
As to the thought of getting Cates to move to Sunday turn in before the race .... that sounds like a giant pipe dream. I just can't envision big race day turn ins that start early and end an hour befoe the flag drops. It is more likely they'll proceed with a devil may care attitude ....
