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Title: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mark on December 04, 2012, 01:54:36 pm
http://arizonasports.com/45/1592754/Report-Auburn-interested-in-Rich-Rodriguez
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 04, 2012, 02:49:49 pm
They can be as interested as they want.  RichRod isn't going anywhere.  If they want a coach who is a "one and done", they should look at Graham. :D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 04, 2012, 04:10:14 pm
If so at least the "one and done" includes beating up on those Wildrats on thier home turf!!!  :D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 04, 2012, 07:41:43 pm
Right, Smitty, that is very likely the LAST win Fraud Graham will have over the Wildcats.  He better get a lot of pictures next to that trophy, because he isn't likely to ever see it again. :D :D :D :D

Face it, Graham is a total fraud and will be gone to his next "dream job" as soon as the money shows.  But maybe, just maybe (not likely) he will actually tell his players face to face when he leaves, instead of sending them a text. 
Graham is just low class, all the way, and it will be sweet when RichRod make him his Bith for the next 5 years (which is when I figure Graham will be fired).
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 04, 2012, 07:57:12 pm
I guess you have to wait for the next 5 years to find out. Until that time Rich Rod and the rats are the biths!  :D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mark on December 04, 2012, 09:23:12 pm
Graham admittedly has exhibited a ladder-climbing proclivity second to none, but now he's the head coach of the biggest university in America.  I think he'll outlast RichRod in this state, but only time will tell.They're even pumping in $300 million to rebuild Sun Devil stadium and training facilities into one of the best in the country. Yeah. I think he'll want to hang around and take credit for that.

Enjoy your twin ciudad of Albuquerque. You can bet chiles on who will top a metro of a million first. The Devils will be heading to the Bay area which also happens to mirror the Valley of the Sun @ 4.4 million. >:D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 05, 2012, 12:22:15 pm
Mark,

You can have your 4.4 million, your lung-clogging, eye-burning smog and your car-choked freeways.  I am so happy to NOT live there.

Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 05, 2012, 12:51:18 pm
I guess ASU takes pride in nobody ever wanting their coaches.  If Graham is doing such a great job then how come nobody is chasing him to be their coach? I'm sure that if another university called, any university, Graham is 1 cowardly text message away from leaving. If you are a Sun Devil and deny that, then you aren't paying attention. Lucky for you nobody wants him.

I just read that comment section on the bottom of the article. The smog must be really thick in the valley. Some ASU fan is wondering why Graham is not rumored to be going for the job in Auburn, Tennessee or Texas. Now that's funny!
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 01:32:28 pm
I guess ASU takes pride in nobody ever wanting their coaches.  

Tell that to Stoooooops!!! HAHAHA! What an idiot!!
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 01:44:09 pm
I just read that comment section on the bottom of the article. The smog must be really thick in the valley. Some ASU fan is wondering why Graham is not rumored to be going for the job in Auburn, Tennessee or Texas. Now that's funny!

They must not teach reading comprehension that well down in Nogales!! How do you know the guy who made that comment (Lee A.) is an ASU fan? I guess working for the govenment doesn't require basic comprehension skills!!  :D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 05, 2012, 01:44:28 pm
HA!!!!  You posted a little too quickly, Smitty.  At least Stoops has a football coaching job (even if it is with his brother)  

But......................can you tell me what Dennis Erickson is doing now? All I can find on him is that he is a FORMER college and NFL coach.  HA!  HA!!  HA!!!  WHAT AN IDIOT!!!!!!.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 01:53:09 pm
Mike - If that is your excuse for Stooooops having a job (because his brother is successful and he is a complete IDIOT) then that is Hilarious - you can have it!  :D I'm not sure what ole' DE is up to - probably at a bar drinking! I can tell you what Dirk is doing - but I guess you would shrug it off since that koolaid taste so well down south!! I'm actually surprised you are still posting Mikey and not threatining to cancel your acct here because the Kitties got beat up! Maybe next year buddy - Until that time take the A$$ whooping like a man!   >:D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 05, 2012, 02:33:49 pm
Stoops should have been fired years ago.  I'm not at all making excuses.  But, since you brought up no one wanting Stoops, it was only fair for me to bring up DE -- fired, but no job AT ALL.  Oh, yeah, it says he is "retired".  LOL!!!  Is that what they call it when someone is fired and can't get a job?

Who even said anything about Koetter -- or any other past ASU or UA coaches, for that matter?
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mark on December 05, 2012, 02:50:26 pm
At 65, Erickson is old enough to deserve to be retired. And he has two national championship rings as his legacy. 99.99% of college coaches can't say that. That said, Dennis retired a couple of years too late!
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 05, 2012, 03:01:42 pm
They must not teach reading comprehension that well down in Nogales!! How do you know the guy who made that comment (Lee A.) is an ASU fan? I guess working for the govenment doesn't require basic comprehension skills!!  :D
So Smity, you think this guy might not be an ASU fan? The guy scanning ArizonaSports? The guy referring to UA as "The Kitty"? The post titled "I hope he goes"?:

"(And I hope this isn't a double post) It wouldn't bother me at all if RichRod bailed on The Kitty after 1 year, let him go. I guess I'm surprised that Todd Graham isn't rumored for Auburn but maybe he's waiting for the call from Tennessee or Texas (should Mac Brown suddenly find himself unemployed)."

Can you really be that dense? I'd refer to the basic comprehension skills of a banker, but with financial mess our country was put in as a result of "bankers", i'll let it speak for itself. Plus, with you being a graduate of ASU's Alfred E. Newman's School of Finance and Fast Food, there is no reason to get personal.  ;D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 03:22:58 pm
Danny Boy - Everyone refers to UA as Kitties (Rats, Mildcats, mildrats, etc...) - not just ASU fans! I'm an ASU fan and I don't want Rich Rod to leave - hell he can't beat ASU so I hope he stays a long time!

If you are that dense to think that bankers caused the financial mess you are in then you my friend have been living in a hole or underground or in a go nowhere, suck hole community for the last 6 years...Oh I forgot you do live in a go nowhere suck hole community - Sorry for your lack of basic economic knowledge!  >:D

I knew when once ASU whipped up on you guys the trash talk would get even worse. Take it like a man and get your panties out of a bunch - there's always next year! Here's to another Rich Rod loss!! Cheers!  >:D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 05, 2012, 03:42:26 pm
Damn, I hope that's not your best arguement. I'm actually pretty lucky. I've been in my house 10 plus years, never a second mortgage, and on the back side of a 15yr note. Unlike most of America, we are good. So if it's not the bankers, should we blame the pizza guy? How bout the greedy construction worker who was making mad bank pounding nails? Yeah!   

Having spent 20+ years each in both Phx and Tucson, I escaped the go nowhere - suck hole community. No question about it....
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 03:54:50 pm
So if it's not the bankers, should we blame the pizza guy? How bout the greedy construction worker who was making mad bank pounding nails? Yeah!   

Having spent 20+ years each in both Phx and Tucson, I escaped the go nowhere - suck hole community. No question about it....

Apparently you do not know that the banks are regulated by the federal government - do they not have TV's or news stations down there (or even newspapers!) - maybe you just don't understand them because you only get Telemundo?!? That's what's wrong with our society - people like you always wanting to blame someone else for their own failures! It's pitiful and this piont the finger at someone else society we live in is only getting worse. How about you be a part of the solution and not the problem Dan and stop the misplaced blame game. Especially since you have no clue what you are talking about!

Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 05, 2012, 04:14:48 pm
With that post, aren't you pointing the finger at someone else and blaming others? Just an observation.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: BBQCZAR on December 05, 2012, 04:20:37 pm
Wow,I think we need to get some moderators here and delete this thread,damn ugly !
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 04:22:24 pm
I know Tim - they just can't accept the fact that ASU has a far superior football team!  >:D

Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 04:28:24 pm
With that post, aren't you pointing the finger at someone else and blaming others? Just an observation.

I didn't point fingers or blame anyone - I just stated a FACT.

You remind me of a quote from The Big Lebowski: "You're out of your league Donny!"  :D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 05, 2012, 04:32:27 pm
There is more than enough blame to go around for the financial crisis that erupted in 2008.  Here is an interesting article.  Lots of blame

http://www.economicpredictions.org/who-is-to-blame-for-the-financial-crisis.htm (http://www.economicpredictions.org/who-is-to-blame-for-the-financial-crisis.htm)

Unfortunately, probably the biggest problem (my opinion) was the loosening of mortgage lending regulations on banks / investment banks, resulting in a huge surge in subprime mortgages.  Those were "repackaged" into  mortgage-backed securities -- not direct pass-throughs (like a GNMA pool), but derivatives, which divided those MBS's into several tranches (portions), some of which were, or should have been, rated as junk or lower (non-rated). Those were the ultimate culprit when the housing bubble started to burst.  Bankers were not the whole problem, but their greed (lending to people the bankers KNEW should not be getting a mortgage) certainly contributed to the meltdown.

Yes, Smitty, banks ARE regulated by the government.  But those regulations were drastically reduced, starting in the early 2000's, so bankers, while not entirely to blame, certainly share much of the blame.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mark on December 05, 2012, 04:35:31 pm
Nah. It's just our version of the Hatfields and MCoys. We actually love our brethren down Mexico way. :-*  I admit that Phoenix is smoggier and hotter, but Tucson is dustier and delightfully cooler, especially at night. Two things I still have trouble with in Tucson...(1) A lack of streetlights (my night vision is getting worse...and (2) Not "getting it" about Sonoran hotdogs. I went to the holy grail of El Guero Canelo and I must be missing something, despite ordering it with everything on it. ;) I did like the grilled Fresno chiles they had on the condiments bar. :P
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 05, 2012, 04:57:49 pm
I'm not sure how we got so far off topic...... but how about we all just blame it on Smitty and move on?  >:D

Just kidding man! No hard feelings.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 05:17:14 pm
Mike - your 10 minutes of Google research for "who is to blame for the financial crisis" to pick this article to accentuate your point is funny. Anyone can do it and I know there are many counter point articles that can be cut and pasted like you did. This just proves that our society is always looking to point fingers and not take personal responsibility.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 05:19:06 pm
I'll take the blame for the financial crisis if you take the blame for police brutality and the LA riots! No hard feelings buddy!
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 05, 2012, 05:29:35 pm
Mike - your 10 minutes of Google research for "who is to blame for the financial crisis" to pick this article to accentuate your point is funny. Anyone can do it and I know there are many counter point articles that can be cut and pasted like you did. This just proves that our society is always looking to point fingers and not take personal responsibility.

Absolutely, I looked for an article that was fairly comprehensive.  Not sure what your point is about that.  You can pick any article, and I would challenge you to find a single one (not written by a banker, that is) that would say bankers were blameless.  This article was pretty balanced, IMO.  There is plenty of blame to go around.  But if you have a "counter point article" that says bankers were blameless, please do post it.   I could use a good laugh. I do know, that as far back as the mid - 1980's, investment bankers were creating multi-tranche MBS's, and some of those tranches were pretty toxic themselves.  And that was before there were any sub-prime mortgages.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 05:36:07 pm
My point is that the rats blow and ASU rules! How could you miss that Mike?
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 05, 2012, 05:43:25 pm
Oh, how clever you are, Smitty!!!  I had no idea you could be so witty. :D :D :D :D :D


all time series records with asu (as of 12/1/2012)

football: 47-38-1 arizona
basketball: 142-80 arizona
baseball: 237-203-1 arizona
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 05, 2012, 05:52:24 pm
Mike, should we post the ASU vs UA academic rankings as well? Or just let it go?: :police:
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 05, 2012, 06:00:47 pm
I'll take the blame for the financial crisis if you take the blame for police brutality and the LA riots! No hard feelings buddy!
Were you in the banking business during the collapse? I was busting tires on 18 wheelers in 1992.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 05, 2012, 06:11:47 pm
Mike, should we post the ASU vs UA academic rankings as well? Or just let it go?: :police:

Nah, just let it go.  We don't want to bruise their delicate egos TOO much. :D....................Or, maybe we do.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 06:55:34 pm
I was in the Commercial Banking business like I am now during that time and I have nothing to do with residential mortgages.

I had to dumb it down for you Mike since you apparently missed the initial point.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 05, 2012, 06:58:53 pm
2012 football rankings:

ASU 1 - UA 0
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Crash on December 05, 2012, 11:24:09 pm
I miss all ya'll.   ;)

Let's play nice, get drunk and keep it on point.

I agree with Smitty (I hate that).....2012 football rankings:

ASU 1 - UA 0

Scoreboard, UofA deserved to lose.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 06, 2012, 08:12:49 am
ASU played a better game. They wanted it more, in a hostile environment. That game is always a 50/50 chance, regardless of records.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 06, 2012, 08:57:35 am
Mike, should we post the ASU vs UA academic rankings as well? Or just let it go?: :police:

I'll post it for you:

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

ASU #30
UA #57

 >:D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: auggieaug on December 06, 2012, 03:29:38 pm
Auburn can have Rich Rod.  Only reason Arizona has a football program is to fund it's basketball program!
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 06, 2012, 04:25:19 pm
Here is the same source (US NEWS and WORLD REPORT) of ASU vs UA academic rankings:

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/spp%2B50/page+3

What Smitty did was isolate one particular college / field of study. Shown here, overall in academics UA is ranked 120 and ASU is 139 nationwide, as a University. I'm sure he came across this,  but just forgot to add it to his post.

But here is where it benefits someone to become a Sun Devil. ASU's yearly tuition is $9724.00 where UA is $10,034. Also ASU has an acceptance rate of 88 percent where UA is 71. I guess you get what you pay for. Easier to get in (much like their co-eds) and cheaper to attend. ;)
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 06, 2012, 04:36:41 pm
I'm pretty sure this thread has been jacked enough. Aren't we just a little off topic?
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 06, 2012, 04:49:19 pm
Auburn can have Rich Rod.  Only reason Arizona has a football program is to fund it's basketball program!

Auggie,  Auburn hired a coach....not RichRod.  And you know as well as I do that it is the basketball program that funds just about all the other sports. ;)
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 06, 2012, 05:11:14 pm
Auggie,  Auburn hired a coach....not RichRod.  And you know as well as I do that it is the basketball program that funds just about all the other sports. ;)
I'm just surprised they weren't interested in Graham. >:D
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 06, 2012, 05:17:26 pm
I'm just surprised they weren't interested in Graham. >:D

Maybe they were interested, but realized Graham would never leave his "dream" job for a podunk school like Auburn. :angel:
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: smitty250 on December 07, 2012, 09:03:33 am
Dan - I posted the business college rankings because that is where I graduated from. Also speaking of "you get what you pay for" the annual tuition for Eller is $20,339 as opposed to $22,709 at W.P. Carey. Also very interesting is that the Avg. Annual Salary for an Eller grad is $82,263 and $88,012 for a W.P. Carey grad. Even more interesting is the percentage of students fully employed at time of graduation - 47.6% for Eller and 78.3% for W.P. Carey!! I guess we can both agree that you do get what you pay for!!  ;D

What were we talking about in the first place again?
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mark on December 07, 2012, 09:19:29 am
There are a few reasons, in theory, why Graham will stay.

#1. His rep for jumping ship has caught up with him. He has to stay put for a while. And if he can turn around ASU's program, he will take ownership of it. He is ready to build his legacy. What better place than the biggest school in the country? One drawback to ASU's attendance is that metro Phoenix is one of the few places in the Country with competition from all four professional sports leagues. They are not the only game in town.

#2. Graham's in-laws live here and his wife and kids really love living here and are tired of bopping around.

#3. His job is to court alumni money and he attended something like 150 meet & greets, luncheons and speeches in his first 100 days. He has done a masterful job of channeling his inner "Frank Kush" by returning to Camp Tontozona, bringing in Kush to speak to the team and interact with the fan base. Famous past Sun Devils are applauding it and re-embracing the program with gusto.

#4. He has accomplished his first big goal of capturing the Territorial Cup, something he had spoken of as priority #1 since the day he was hired. He also got a juicy bonus for doing so.

#5. Getting to a bowl was another goal set by the university, and yes, another bonus.

#6. Nike has embraced the program, making ASU its second experimental makeover. We've all seen what they have done for the Oregon program. Right or wrong, it's all about the bling for many prospects these days.

#7. All this culminates into a $300 million re-do of Sun Devil Stadium, turning one of the already most distinctive venues in the country (nestled between two desert mountains) into a much more user-friendly facility (aka cooler) with a one-of-a-kind open air roof. Add in a dazzling training facility, and you have the kind of lure to attract top notch prospects. Graham has repeatedly stated that one of his top goals is to get the best players in the state to want to stay and play for ASU.

#8. ASU President Michael Crow realizes a lot is at stake and brought in a new dynamic Athletic Director to shake things up. Crow is a very smart guy with a big ego and is obsessed with doing things right. He has put his reputation on the line.

#9. Graham is well-compensated. He is the second highest paid coach in the PAC-12 and 13th in college football. Oregon's Chip Kelly is #9. RichRod is #58.

All that said, the proof will be in the pudding. I'm looking forward to seeing how both ASU and UA's program grow under new leadership. In the end, it good for the entire state of Arizona if both programs flourish.
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Crash on December 08, 2012, 01:50:48 am
All great points Mark, thanks for the info.  I think Graham will be at ASU for a while....especially based on point #1.

I do see good things in the ASU football future (not happy about it though), and the UofA football future as well.

Bear Down!  Let's get on to basketball!
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: rcheatham on December 08, 2012, 03:58:25 am
Roll Tide!
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on December 08, 2012, 01:17:30 pm
Roll Tide!

Talk about hijacking a thread!!!! :mad:
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: AZWildcat on December 08, 2012, 03:03:40 pm
Roll Tide? He's talking filet mignon while the rest of us are arguing which cut of chuck is better than the other..
Title: Re: Auburn interested in RichRod
Post by: Mark on December 09, 2012, 10:00:59 am
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Roll Tide? He's talking filet mignon while the rest of us are arguing which cut of chuck is better than the other..

 :D