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Title: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: bearbonez on October 20, 2009, 12:23:06 am
I have done smoked turkey for many thanksgivings now...in fact it was how I started bbq. I have tried many experiments with flavor combos. The last 2 turkeydays however have been my favorite by far and is now tradition for me.

In a 20 qt cooler
1 turkey..weight doesn't really matter for this. Have done 2 turkeys each year from 12-20 lbs

Place in a stock pot 1/2 bottle decent pinot grigio
10 garlic cloves
1 large onion rough chopped
2 large carrots large chopped
2 stalks celery large chopped
a bouquet garni (few sprigs each of thyme, rosemary and oregano)
4 navel oranges halved
2 lemons halved
1/2 cup whole black peppercorn
2 tbsp ground cloves
2 c brown sugar
1 c kosher salt
1 gal h2o

bring to a boil, reduce and simmer 1 hour. Let cool to room temp. Place bird in cooler and pour liquid mixture and add a 8 or 10 lbs bag of ice. Let brine for 48 hours.

 remove bird and rinse well. Stuff the cavities with garlic cloves, whole cloves (just a few), onion, and rosemary sprigs. Rub the bird with your favorite bbq rub. Melt 2 lbs of butter and soak all the butter with a cheesecloth. Wrap the turkey with the cheesecloth like a mummy. Cook at 250-275 till breast meat hits 165. Rest for 30 minutes...good time to make that gravy...carve and serve.
 I have used oak and apple for this by the way.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Crash on October 20, 2009, 01:08:32 am
Bear, I am so trying this recipe this year.  Sounds great.

Make sure to take it to TX with you, but we'd rather you kept it here in AZ.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Mark on October 20, 2009, 07:08:48 am
That does sound mighty tasty, Bear! :P This Thanksgiving, I'm thinking of trying a "beer can" turkey using a big can of apple juice.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: toys4dlr on October 20, 2009, 08:42:11 am
Mark,

Use a big can of Fosters.  Works great on the 12-16 lb turkeys. 

Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Mark on October 20, 2009, 09:34:18 am
I gotta try that. Thanks!
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Post by: jmcrig on October 20, 2009, 09:41:32 am
It looks like it should be a keeper. Nice
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: desertdog on November 17, 2009, 01:02:46 pm


Bumping for the holidays!
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: RobOConnell on November 17, 2009, 05:55:36 pm
Thanks for the bump Dean. And thanks for the recipe Bear. Sounds very good. Again with the buttered cheesecloth... hmm... Me thinks we're on to something here.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: bearbonez on November 17, 2009, 06:45:39 pm
 Out of about 20 turkeys on the smoker and almost as many recipes and techniques. This is by far my favorite. The cajun flavored I tried and posted a few years back is a distant second. The buttered cheesecloth trick I got from another bbq forum I have been part of for quite a spell. I have to say the person responsible for inventing the idea makes Steven Hawkings look like Forrest Gump. The texture of the skin and the color is totally ridiculous...like something on the cover of a food magazine or a cookbook.
  The rest is just the flavor profiles I like best for enhancing the flavor of the turkey. It compliments the meat in a way where the flavor of the turkey becomes more profound. Where as before I made recipes with the idea of introducing flavor to a bland protein. Turkey really isn't bland given the right accoutrements.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: olivesmoker on November 22, 2009, 12:07:25 pm
wow that sounds fantastic!
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: kingbrutis on November 22, 2009, 05:04:12 pm
This might be a dumb question, but where do you pick up a cheesecloth? Is is something Fry's or Safeway sells? Never bought sone so I thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: jmcrig on November 22, 2009, 05:12:23 pm
Smart and Final is one place. It's not easy to find. But I have seen it at Smart and Final.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: olivesmoker on November 22, 2009, 05:59:48 pm
Cheesecloth is usually readily available at any grocery store. It can be with the baking goods, or the aluminum pans, or the kitchenware, etc. Best to ask someone who looks like they have a clue where it might be. Usually hangs from a hook in flat plastic bags, rather than being placed on a shelf.
I do have a question for Bear though...Does the cheesecloth REALLY soak up a whole 2 pounds of melted butter???? And how much cheesecloth do you need? Do you wrap it single file and just keep going around and around until it is all used up? I imagine it is quite a messy process right? We were actually going to do a local buffet since all family and friends are gone this year...BUT after reading this recipe, how can we pass it up with turkey at 29 cents a pound??!! Any enlightening on this recipe is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: azkitch on November 22, 2009, 11:15:43 pm
Alexa and Vince did some and posted some great pics. I don't remember what year, but you'll see. She noted it took 11/4 lbs of butter to saturate the cheesecloth.

http://www.azbarbeque.com/forums/bbq-recently-post-pictures-and-tell-us-what-you-cooked/casa-di-divq-is-a-bevy-of-excitement-this-morning/
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: bearbonez on November 23, 2009, 05:03:07 pm
I get my cheesecloth at home depot. Yup after bout 30 seconds or so of sitting in the butter it soaks up the whole 2 lbs.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: olivesmoker on November 23, 2009, 10:13:15 pm
OK so 3 of us are now doing this recipe for Thanksgiving, one of my teamies is about an hour ahead of us so is probably at the brining stage. We are waiting for the brine to cool right now. Smells awesome and we are taking pics along the way. Still Bear, a couple of questions about wrapping the bird. Do you just use one package of cheesecloth? Do you just wad it up in the melted butter or try to place it in folded upon itself? Once the butter has soaked in, does it just drip all over the place while wrapping? Or does the butter pretty much stay adhered to the cloth? Do you wrap the bird say one direction and then twist it and go the opposite direction, so that all four exposed areas of the bird are covered like a mummy?
Thanks!
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: RobOConnell on November 24, 2009, 10:21:58 am
Got my cheesecloth at Walmart in the paint department. 2 square yards should be enough. Soak it in butter and wrap ... this is gonna be my best one yet... yums.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Mike (AZBarbeque) on November 24, 2009, 12:49:22 pm
Do you take the Cheesecloth off at any point or leave it on until the Turkey is done?
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: n2dabluebbq on November 24, 2009, 01:19:33 pm
well i have never done this cheesecloth turkey either. so i went a looking for some info. seems that everything points to just laying the cheesecloth on the turkey as opposed to wrapping the turkey completely. also, the recipes i read state that removing the cloth is a good thing for the last 1/2 hr or so.


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Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: RobOConnell on November 24, 2009, 01:29:21 pm
Got 2 turkeys today. Doing the brine tonight. I cant wait to do this.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: bearbonez on November 25, 2009, 05:39:37 am
I use one pack of cheesecloth. Once the butter is soaked up, let it cool. this way the butter stays on the cloth better. It will drip and be a bit messy...not too bad. I just take straight out of the pack and plop it in the butter..wadded, folded, shouldn't matter as long as it is well soaked. When wrapping, I just start with the end over the head side cavity, wrap under a wing and go back on a diagonal so the cloth doesn't slide off the top. Then just wrap from one end to the other overlapping a lil bit, till the whole thing is covered. Will see if cindy has pics saved on her puter or disk and post em for ya. My hard drive that had the pics fried...may have em posted somewhere..will look.
 I take off the cloth for the last hour.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Mike (AZBarbeque) on November 25, 2009, 05:50:45 am
Thanks Bear...  ;)
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: desertdog on November 25, 2009, 06:06:39 am
Last year I did the cheesecloth method as Bear describes, but I also basted it with herb butter every hour or so to remoisten the cheesecloth.  Wondering now if that has any effect on the browning of the skin, mine was a ittle lighter than I like it.  I did remove the cheesecloth the last hour...
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Martini Mama on November 25, 2009, 11:17:12 am
Thanks for all the info. We have pics of our brine and the bird in the brine. Will take some during smoking and finished product, then will post post-Thanksgiving! Can't wait! The house was filled with a wonderful aroma during the simmering of the brine, really makes it feel like the holidays with the cloves and all the herbs and citrus...
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: ddog27 on November 25, 2009, 11:44:15 am
I can't wait to see all the pictures! Yum!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: jmcrig on November 25, 2009, 12:33:46 pm
Yes, pictures, pictures, and more pictures.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: SmoknAZ on November 25, 2009, 01:36:18 pm
I have a twenty pounder that I will wrap in cheese cloth and then smoke. Using the turkey cannon any idea how may minutes per pound estimated????? Just need something to guesstimate when to put it on.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Martini Mama on November 25, 2009, 04:45:12 pm
What's a turkey cannon and what temp are you planning on keeping the smoker?
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: SmoknAZ on November 25, 2009, 04:58:21 pm
It's kind of like beer in the butt chicken holder except it holds the turkey horizontal. I am going to try 250 to 275 until it hits 150 then take off the cheese cloth an run it up to 300 degrees until the turkey hits 160 to brown skin. :-\
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: olivesmoker on November 25, 2009, 08:59:08 pm
Your smoking temps seem just right, we are planning to do exactly the same thing...not really a time per pound, but figure about 6 hours for our 18 ponder, that's about 20 min per pound. First time doing the 48 hour brine thing so we'll see how it goes...
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: SmoknAZ on November 25, 2009, 09:04:45 pm
Your smoking temps seem just right, we are planning to do exactly the same thing...not really a time per pound, but figure about 6 hours for our 18 ponder, that's about 20 min per pound. First time doing the 48 hour brine thing so we'll see how it goes...
Thanks! ;)
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: PAT YOUNG on November 25, 2009, 09:11:13 pm
ROBIN, is that gloss or semigloss cheesecloth??
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: AzJohnnyC on November 25, 2009, 10:17:49 pm
All I found was regular cheesecloth. I was hoping to find some monterrey jack.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: SmoknAZ on November 25, 2009, 10:24:12 pm
All I found was regular cheesecloth. I was hoping to find some monterrey jack. DANIELS?????
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: RobOConnell on November 24, 2010, 11:16:25 am
I am gonna do this again this year. It worked so well last year that I would be shot if I didnt do so again this year. LOL.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: RudedoggAZ on November 24, 2010, 11:49:07 am
All I found was regular cheesecloth. I was hoping to find some monterrey jack.

Hey Johnny, You remember writing this joke? Probably not cause it's LAME!!!! You're better than that... haha!  :D
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: PackerBacker BBQ on November 24, 2010, 12:19:21 pm
I have the brine on the stove as I type! And does it smell great in this house!  Question for Bear or anyone else that has done the cheesecloth tech.
What are the advantages/ disadvantages other than mess, to lay the soaked cloth flat on top of tin foil ( for easy clean up) then set the bird in the middle then just wrap it up?? Any tips would be appreciated

Have a great day everyone!

Dave
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: RobOConnell on November 24, 2010, 12:34:38 pm
I did the cheesecloth method, and I gotta say its well worth it. Yes its messy, but in the end I would recommend that. The cheesecloth holds the butter in place during the cook keeping it just where you want it. I wrap mine like a mummy and place it on the grill for the smoke. I didnt use the foil though. But keep an eye on the temps, too long and it gets dry. I pull mine off at no more than 170 in the breast area.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: PackerBacker BBQ on November 24, 2010, 01:17:58 pm
My bad, I wasnt clear.....  I wasnt gonna use the foil during the cook, just to cover the counter top, to lay the cloth on, then wrap the bird up and toss the foil.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: lecheminant on November 29, 2010, 03:26:53 pm
I followed this recipe for Thanksgiving and it turned out great.  Since I had an enhanced turkey, I only let it brine for about 18 hours.  I admit I was a little worried that there was too much clove for my taste, but it turned out perfect.  I smoked it using apple wood.  I planned on smoking it at 275, but I had a hard time getting my smoker above 250 (a cool breezy day).  Luckily it finished cooking just in time for dinner.  Again it was great.  Thanks for the recipe.  Here's a picture of the turkey right after I pulled off the cheese cloth, about 15 minutes before I pulled it off the smoker.

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Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Trailhound on November 09, 2011, 08:42:01 pm
This to good of a recipe not to be back up top this season
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: bearbonez on November 16, 2011, 05:35:05 am
 Here's a little trick to keeping the mess to a minimum.. The first thing I do once the butter is melted is I open up the cheese cloth on the counter to get all the folds out. Then I start fishing one end into the pot. Once the cheesecloth is all in the pot. I then press and turn the cheesecloth till none of the cheesecloth is dry and have all the butter soaked up. Then I put the pot in the fridge and let the butter firm up. About 10 minutes is all that is needed. Now you can wrap the turkey without the butter dripping all over the place.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: jmcrig on November 16, 2011, 05:56:07 am
Here's a little trick to keeping the mess to a minimum.. The first thing I do once the butter is melted is I open up the cheese cloth on the counter to get all the folds out. Then I start fishing one end into the pot. Once the cheesecloth is all in the pot. I then press and turn the cheesecloth till none of the cheesecloth is dry and have all the butter soaked up. Then I put the pot in the fridge and let the butter firm up. About 10 minutes is all that is needed. Now you can wrap the turkey without the butter dripping all over the place.
Thanks, nice trick. ;D
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Trailhound on November 16, 2011, 08:33:45 am
We wrap the cheesecloth around the bird and tie it off with string. Then we don't even melted the butter just get it a little soft and put the bird on a cooking sheet use our hands to spread the butter all over the bird add the rub, and then put it in the fridge over night.

Here are some photos of the birds I did yeaterday for a office lunch turned out awesome.
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Post by: Gizzy's Smokin Crew on November 16, 2011, 12:27:33 pm
Looks mighty tasty....Nice job :P
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: mikeincg on November 27, 2011, 08:10:53 am
guys I made this recipe this holiday and family loved it.


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Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Crash on November 27, 2011, 10:38:54 pm
Looks good.....who got the plastic handle?
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: mikeincg on November 28, 2011, 04:02:01 am
???
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Post by: Nick Everlee on November 29, 2011, 02:35:15 pm
Did the turkey hobo style this year:  20 lb turkey + 20 lbs of charcoal + 20 gal trash can for 2 hours.  The results were pretty amazing.  Great tasting, moist turkey, perfectly cooked in 2 hours.  No crispy skin, though.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Atlas on December 24, 2011, 08:22:14 pm
I picked up a Foster Farms fresh young turkey at Costco last week (.89/lb)and decided to attempt my first brined bird.  Altered the  recipe just a little, used sparkling cider instead if the Pinot Grigio, and left out the cloves.  Result were fantastic!  Thanks David for your original post and thanks to whoever it was that posted the easier way to work the butter into the cheesecloth.

Jim 
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: Mike (AZBarbeque) on November 24, 2014, 04:00:01 am
Bumping this thread for the Holiday.  Post up pictures of your meals.
Title: Re: My stand by turkey recipe
Post by: lecheminant on November 24, 2014, 04:32:38 pm
I usually smoke 2 turkeys for thanksgiving every year. One following this recipe and I like to try a new recipe each year. After 4 or 5 years this is still my go-to smoked turkey recipe.