i saw these at the Royal, Actually Chris Marks and Ace of Hearts might be the national distributor of the product. The Had them at the Royal and played around with the black olive. Works well, gets hot, its a reostat controller, no digital temp set, built well, Primo might be making the Ceramic coming in the future. My concerns with bringing the temps down from a higher temp and they did prove they could do that. Typically the ceramics are hard to bring them down in temp after high temps. it did flare up when we put 3 buts on there without a dip pan, but what doesn't right? Works well look for them soon at BBQ Island