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Title: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: BruceBenjamin on September 16, 2009, 09:58:28 pm
I have a question for all you Excel 20 owners out there:  What kind of thermometer do you use?  Regardless of what people think is the best, the probe has to fit through the probe eyelet holes in the sides of the stackers.  The probe I have in my digital therm is crimped onto the braided steel lead.  The crimp isn't very wide but it is wide enough to prevent it from fitting through the eyelet.  I might be able to carefully file the crimp down a little but I'm very hesitant to do this and likely screw up the probe.  I've looked at a lot of thermometers online and in person and it seems that many of them have the same type of crimp in the base of the probe.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.

Bruce
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: Crash on September 16, 2009, 10:41:23 pm
Check out the Maverick ET -73.  We swear by them.
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: BruceBenjamin on September 16, 2009, 11:26:13 pm
Check out the Maverick ET -73.  We swear by them.

Yep, that's the name I keep hearing about.  Clearly it's the most popular.  But I just hate seeing so many negative reviews on Amazon from people who have the probes fail.  I'm not thrilled with what appears to be a very short transmission range for the remote.  I've read quite a bit about some very good customer service from Maverick.  I like that but what I'd really like is very good quality control.  It seems that some of these thermometers are excellent and others fail very quickly.  :-\

I guess the real question would be, how many times have you had probes fail and how would you rate the transmission range?  Clearly the probe fits through the eyelets on the Excel 20's stackers.  It seems that you know of what you speak and seeing as how you have the opportunity to use your thermometers a lot more than the average person I respect your opinion.  How reliable has the ET-73 been for you?  Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

Bruce
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: Crash on September 17, 2009, 12:32:38 am
In all honesty, we just upgraded to two of the ET-73's about a month ago (the dual probes are great).  Prior to using the 73's we used two different styles of the ET-901.  We have used the 901's for about 4 years and have had almost no issues with them.  The only problem I had was that one of the 901's stopped registering temps after being left outside during a thunderstorm.  It did come "back to life" after it dried out though.  So chalk that problem up to operator error.

I have also heard a few negative things about Mavericks, even here on the site.  It seems like a kind of hit or miss product from what I have read.  Luckily, we ha vent had any problems.

In short, we have had no issues with the Maverick products and we have really beat the hell out of both of the 901's.  I'm actually surprised that they are still functional.  I'll continue to use them until they piss me off.
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: toys4dlr on September 17, 2009, 07:51:18 am
I have  Costco Business around here and the carry a probe type thermo for around 14 bucks.  They are accurate and cheap. 

I would go with a polder type too and any kitchen outlet place. 

Title: Re: Thermometer for Pro Q
Post by: AzJohnnyC on September 17, 2009, 09:15:02 am
I have a Maverick, not sure what model, but I've had the reciever in my bedroom with me while I sleep with no problems.
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: Crash on September 17, 2009, 12:37:19 pm
I have  Costco Business around here and the carry a probe type thermo for around 14 bucks.  They are accurate and cheap. 

I would go with a polder type too and any kitchen outlet place. 

We also just started using a polder for checking meat temps.  Not as fast as the Thermapens, but hey...I got 5 extra seconds to spare.

I know BBQ Island carries them for just under 20 bucks.
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: BruceBenjamin on September 17, 2009, 01:05:40 pm
Thanks much for the info guys.  I guess I have to decide if I want to take the risk with the Maverick ET-73.  I know this isn't a big purchase and maybe for some people it's not that big of a deal if they're one of the unlucky ones.  But I'm one of those kinds that hates having to return something, or worse yet, just throw it away.

  It's rare that I buy anything that has that many negative reviews as the ET-73 has on Amazon.  For some reason it seems that just about any digital thermometer they sell has the same record of reliability as the Mavericks do.  I don't think I've ever searched for a product where the market is flooded with so many hit-or-miss items.  Are all of them just Chinese junk? 

How hard is it to make one of these that don't have such a high percentage failure rate?  You can buy a $20 cell phone that will last for years.  I've used cheap probe instant read thermometers in restaurants and at home that are practically bullet proof.  We had a baby monitor that would probably broadcast through a bank vault wall and it lasted through both of my kids.  None of this is unusual.  I'll bet if Fisher Price made one of these types of thermometers it would function flawlessly for years and cost about the same. Of course it would also have a picture of Mickey Mouse and Pluto on it too.  ;)::)


Here's what I have now. http://www.kitchencollection.com/Temp_Products.cfm?sku=01060880&RankThis=Y&Searched=thermometer&  It's $15. It's not a transmitter model and it only has a single probe but it's taken more than it's share of abuse.  I even use it as a deep fry thermometer and it's been accidentally fully submerged in very hot oil.  It appears to be virtually identical to the CDN model that I've seen for $25. http://www.chefsresource.com/cdn-combo-probe-thermometer-timer-clock.html The only problem with it is that the base of the probe is crimped and won't quite fit through the eyelet.  I'm thinking of attempting to either file it down slightly or maybe squish it in my vise a little bit.  I suppose in order to make it a remote receiver model I could buy another baby monitor and duct tape it to the thermometer.  That way I'll at least be able to hear the alarm when it goes off. ;) :D  I dunno...Such a saga! ::)

Bruce
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: BruceBenjamin on September 17, 2009, 01:07:41 pm
I have  Costco Business around here and the carry a probe type thermo for around 14 bucks.  They are accurate and cheap. 

I would go with a polder type too and any kitchen outlet place. 



Unfortunately we only have a regular Costco here and they don't carry any thermometers that I could find.  Thanks for the info though.

Bruce
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on September 17, 2009, 02:04:23 pm
I have 2 Maverick remote thermometers, each with only one probe (the ET-72, I think).  I have had them for at least 2 years and have had no problems at all.  I even left them out in the rain overnight after one cook.
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: azkitch on September 17, 2009, 03:06:52 pm
No remote function, but I stand by the Taylor digital probe thermo I have for basic use; it's a Polder style. There are several brands that I believe use the same hardware in different cases; the flip up display type. Reads up to 392 or some funky number. One sticky button. Oh well. I could use 2 or 3 like it. Or more. But I can see where remote would be helpful. But 45-60 bucks for a thermometer...Never mind 90 for a thermopen, even if I can look like Alton then...
Good luck with your decision. You'll need 4 or more anyway, so just grab one!
Just followed your link. That's one of 'em I'm talking about...
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: ron b on September 17, 2009, 03:38:00 pm
bruce like i said there are some quirks with the 20 do what i did drill the hole a bit bigger problem solved... for me anyway what i did.
wish the best
ron
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: BruceBenjamin on September 17, 2009, 03:47:12 pm
bruce like i said there are some quirks with the 20 do what i did drill the hols a bit bigger problem solved for me anyway.
wish the best
ron

Drill them bigger?  I considered that but thought that the walls of the eyelet might be pretty thin.  Did the eyelet spin on the bit when you tried to drill it?  It won't take much to allow the probe to fit so if I only enlarge them a little maybe I'll be ok.

Bruce
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: ron b on September 17, 2009, 03:55:24 pm
i pulled rivert first then bored so no no spin just have a metal bit 30 seconds and !!!!!!bam!!!!!!......

Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: Mike P in Tucson on September 17, 2009, 04:28:42 pm
AZkitch,  I got my remote ET-72 therms on ebay for 20 bucks each.
Title: Thermometer usefull tips
Post by: squealers on October 29, 2009, 10:09:10 am
 I use a Maverick 73 remote wireless!

I accidentally left it in my pants pocket and put it in the laundry.... it went through the full wash and I noticed it at the bottom of the washing machine while unloading into the dryer! :mad:

Now, my body told me that those thermometers are very fragile and they don't like rain water! ::)

I full wash :'(

so disassembled it to nothing, dried every little computer chips, circuit board etc... reassembled it and by the next morning it worked just fine!

although it worked, I don't suggest anyone try to wash them up:)

cheers,
M

Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: jmcrig on October 29, 2009, 10:14:12 am
So if mine gets dirty, can I send it to you to be washed?
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: c5rulz on October 30, 2009, 04:47:26 am
Squeeler,

Do you reccomend delicate cycle or just normal?  Hot or cold matter? :D
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: Tek465 on October 30, 2009, 03:52:53 pm
While I wouldn't recommend a washing machine, I have been known to use a dishwasher to clean electronic boards.  Some of the radios I repair have had visitors that like to leave surprises in the equipment. A trip through the dishwasher and a rinse of distilled water usually bring it to near new status.

You're lucky, I've found that switches and displays do not like getting wet, But TV remotes seem to like it. ;)
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: squealers on October 30, 2009, 04:03:54 pm
Squeeler,

Do you reccomend delicate cycle or just normal?  Hot or cold matter? :D

this was just regular soap, I wold have liked to see a bleached load:):)
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: skou on October 31, 2009, 02:08:39 pm
While I wouldn't recommend a washing machine, I have been known to use a dishwasher to clean electronic boards.  Some of the radios I repair have had visitors that like to leave surprises in the equipment. A trip through the dishwasher and a rinse of distilled water usually bring it to near new status.

You're lucky, I've found that switches and displays do not like getting wet, But TV remotes seem to like it. ;)

OK, so, last week I'm busy websurfing away, and enjoying an "adult" beverage.  None of my computers live in cases, they're just sitting on a shelf, out in the open.  Well, I went to grab said beverage, and knocked it over, all over 2 of the 3 motherboards.  Instantly, I shut everything off, at the power supplies, pulled apart the computers, and went to Fry's before they closed to get a couple bottles of alcohol.  (No, not that kind, rubbing alcohol.)

Rinsed off both boards and let them air dry overnight.  Re-assembled the computers,and tested them.  One wouldn't power up.  Set it in a plastic tray, and soaked the end that got wet originally, in the rest of the rubbing alcohol overnight.  Next morning, I set it out to dry for a day.

Re-assembled the secong rig, and all 3 are up and running.

Never thought about using a dishwasher, but then again, I don't have one.

steve
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: skou on November 21, 2009, 07:08:02 pm
In all honesty, we just upgraded to two of the ET-73's about a month ago (the dual probes are great).  Prior to using the 73's we used two different styles of the ET-901.  We have used the 901's for about 4 years and have had almost no issues with them.  The only problem I had was that one of the 901's stopped registering temps after being left outside during a thunderstorm.  It did come "back to life" after it dried out though.  So chalk that problem up to operator error.

I have also heard a few negative things about Mavericks, even here on the site.  It seems like a kind of hit or miss product from what I have read.  Luckily, we ha vent had any problems.

In short, we have had no issues with the Maverick products and we have really beat the hell out of both of the 901's.  I'm actually surprised that they are still functional.  I'll continue to use them until they piss me off.

I've got a couple of the 901s, and they work just fine.  I don't know if this is on all ProQs, but the bolt for one of the grill holders is drilled out for the probe.  There isn't a separate drilled rivet.  I didn't want to drill that out, as it might weaken the grill support.  I just sanded down the crimp on the probe, so it would fit through the holes.  It has been working just fine for me.

steve
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: DesertRat on March 10, 2010, 07:17:44 pm
I was considering this for my new ProQ   http://www.partshelf.com/polder-thm-360.html

One in the meat, the other at grill level..  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Thermometer for ProQ Excel 20?
Post by: AzJohnnyC on March 11, 2010, 07:21:36 am
I was considering this for my new ProQ   http://www.partshelf.com/polder-thm-360.html

One in the meat, the other at grill level..  Thoughts?

That's the right idea there. Similar to the Maverick I use.