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Title: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Lizard333 on May 27, 2009, 02:02:43 pm
I must be missing something here.....

I have been smoking and cooking for the last ten or twelve years and have only tried Brickets a couple of times.  The few time that I did use them, I could taste something funny in the meat.  And I know what you are thinking, the idiot used lighter fluid.  Thats not it.  I have always used a chimney.  I see people talking about what a great deal Home Depot has right now, and was wondering what you all were using it for??  Surely it doesn't make great BBQ??  Just my thoughts.  I have always used either chunk charcoal, oak or mesquite, or logs or chunks of pecan or mesquite or oak as fuel while either grilling or smoking. 

I am missing something??  I don't want to offend anyone, just looking for some answers.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Crash on May 27, 2009, 02:19:44 pm
I use K to cook and wood chunks for the smoke.  I swear by the stuff. 

As for K not making good BBQ, well I'd have to respectfully disagree with that.  Everyone has their preferences, and Blue Bag K is just what works for us.

Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: jim on May 27, 2009, 02:53:50 pm
Wood in the offset --- stay up all night watching the temp gauge - no sleep
K in the WSM --- light it -- up to temp -- go to bed
Lighter fluid --carry it with us to every contest - it's good luck -- liquid mojo.
Still chasing ----
jim
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 27, 2009, 03:06:06 pm
It's because Kingsford is the best briquettes we can get out here. We don't have Duraflame, Royal Oak or anything like that. I have used Kingsford for competition for 9 years now and along with wood chunks, I can say it does make good bbq.
I have used lump many many times but find that my way of cooking and the cookers that I use requires precise heat control. I do not get that with lump. It spikes in temp too much for my liking.

Course I now have a pallet full of Wicked Good briquettes that I like very much.  Costs twice as much as Kingsford but....
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: VisionQuest220 on May 27, 2009, 05:29:49 pm
If there were statistics for something like this available, my guess would be that more Grand Championships, Reserve Grand Championships and 1st Place calls in each category have been won using Kingsford than any other brand or type of fuel combined.

I use it for the same reasons that Jay outlined in his post above.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Quiggs on May 27, 2009, 08:09:36 pm
Me too, tried Royal Oak the first two comps and got tired of messing with vents all the time, first to hot then to cold and all burnt up!?!
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: force on May 27, 2009, 09:43:50 pm
Has anyone used ONO charcoal..... I know some have used it in green eggs...... I have it but haven't tried it....... it burns really hot...... I've been told......
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Lizard333 on May 28, 2009, 07:26:26 am
So as I see it, you are mainly using charcoal brickets as your primary heat source, and smaller chuncks of wood as a "smoke" source??  Am I understanding this correctly??

Maybe it just the size of my smoker, I have a Lang 84, but I cannot see using that much "K" to heat that beast.  Any other Large smokers out there use "K"??  Am I missing the boat here?  Have I been using cords of pecan, oak, and mesquite all these years, when I could have been using K"?? I have very precise heat control with my Lang.  I usally only check it about once an hour, after it gets going.  You guys are telling me that you can walk away all night!?!?! 

Are there those that are using the "K", just using smaller smokers and cookers??  When I usally BBQ, it is for a large croud, a minumum of 40 to 50 people, most of the time a lot more than that.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: toys4dlr on May 28, 2009, 08:10:05 am
Vince uses 4 to 6 WSM's for the Comps and Jay uses 2 WSM's and 2 BDS.  And yes, once the temps are stable and dialed in, they go for a long time.  Attach to a Stoker and it is cruise control.

Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: BBQCZAR on May 28, 2009, 08:16:57 am
Vince uses 4 to 6 WSM's for the Comps and Jay uses 2 WSM's and 2 BDS.  And yes, once the temps are stable and dialed in, they go for a long time.  Attach to a Stoker and it is cruise control.



No,no,no,you mean attach a Digi-Q II and then it truly is on cruise control  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 28, 2009, 08:27:42 am
I've had several big stickburners including a Lang 84. I did not use briquettes in those cookers. I used lump and wood only like you do. Briquettes burn up too fast in big stickburners. They are best suited for smaller cookers which is what most competition teams here use.

With a WSM, cooking in the valley weather, at steady temps, I can get 27+ hours of burn time without reloading more charcoal. At a comp I can usually get about 7 hours of sleep....more if I went to sleep earlier. That is why we use briquettes.

And I don't use them fancy blowers and DigiQ-dads. Why make such a simple thing harder. I wake up every couple hours or so to check temp.....These guys wake up to make sure their gadgets are still workin!!
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: ron b on May 28, 2009, 10:49:06 am
great topic !!! with the obvious large cookers need more fuel so %100 wood makes sense. but me just using wsm's and my new pro q using k with chunks works great i do not use many gadgets other than hmmm ya it looks done  :P  honestly it is hard to trust any of them new fangled gadgets always a temp difference 5-10 deg depending on unit which is the difference between oops or 1st place.my question and i am sure i will get beat up for but whats with the electric/pellet cookers 1/2 the fun is mastering the fire . not that i condem them but is it just the ease of it? or do they actually cook better or different?

don't hit me in the face please!
rjb
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Crash on May 28, 2009, 10:56:27 am
great topic !!! with the obvious large cookers need more fuel so %100 wood makes sense. but me just using wsm's and my new pro q using k with chunks works great i do not use many gadgets other than hmmm ya it looks done  :P  honestly it is hard to trust any of them new fangled gadgets always a temp difference 5-10 deg depending on unit which is the difference between oops or 1st place.my question and i am sure i will get beat up for but whats with the electric/pellet cookers 1/2 the fun is mastering the fire . not that i condem them but is it just the ease of it? or do they actually cook better or different?

don't hit me in the face please!
rjb

In my opinion, the pellet cookers cook at a very, very consistent temp.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: ron b on May 28, 2009, 11:07:08 am
i do agree i have had the privilage of cooking with one. found it easy to use  but guess im old school i like fire tending. makes me feel like i am actualy doing something.

dang now i have to go start a fire see what you guys did

rjb
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: VisionQuest220 on May 28, 2009, 11:09:27 am
And I don't use them fancy blowers and DigiQ-dads. Why make such a simple thing harder. I wake up every couple hours or so to check temp.....These guys wake up to make sure their gadgets are still workin!!

Jay, you're a Renaissance man!
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: azcolt45 on May 28, 2009, 11:12:40 am
I use K in my big stick burner. I use it because it keeps the temps more even than a strictly wood fire. Evey time I added  a log the temp would spike until it went to coals, when I was on wood only.
I now use the K to keep the heat even and add wood on the side to smolder to get my smoke, trying NOT to let the wood actually burn but smolder next to the K. I get around 10-12 hours of heat out of a 15lb bag. I only use around 3 8''in diameter Pecan logs to get the smoke.
Since I added the stoker the times are going up and the temps are always right on.

Colt
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Tek465 on May 28, 2009, 11:25:32 am
Are there those that are using the "K", just using smaller smokers and cookers??  When I usally BBQ, it is for a large croud, a minumum of 40 to 50 people, most of the time a lot more than that.

I don't know.... Stump's (http://www.stumpssmokers.com) and Backwood Smokers  (http://www.backwoods-smoker.com/) look kinda large to me (at least the prices are!!). They claim an hour per pound of charcoal for keeping temp.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 28, 2009, 11:40:59 am
And I don't use them fancy blowers and DigiQ-dads. Why make such a simple thing harder. I wake up every couple hours or so to check temp.....These guys wake up to make sure their gadgets are still workin!!

Jay, you're a Renaissance man!

I knew you'd like that one. ;)
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: VisionQuest220 on May 28, 2009, 11:55:02 am
I thought it was pretty bold talk coming from a man with a pink scooter.
Title: Re:
Post by: KidCurry on May 28, 2009, 12:03:47 pm
 Why Kingsford??   Because it is what Rhythm 'n QUE uses.  ;)




I do cook on smaller cookers and the Big K has always been consistent for me. 


Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 28, 2009, 12:16:57 pm
I thought it was pretty bold talk coming from a man with a pink scooter.

I'm way ahead of ya.....the new camouflage scooter is on it's way.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: desertdog on May 28, 2009, 12:34:39 pm
I thought it was pretty bold talk coming from a man with a pink scooter.

I'm way ahead of ya.....the new camouflage scooter is on it's way.


And just when I thought you were secure in your masculinity, Jay..... :D


Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: ron b on May 28, 2009, 12:41:14 pm
the color isn't the issue here but why are you on a scooter??? :P :P   :P i pictured you in a caddy golf cart
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: jim on May 28, 2009, 01:11:05 pm
Jay -- I have a step thru 1971 Honda Trail CT90 --Orange.
Original Japanese Scooter ----
PS -- K is still the one I use, Vince supplies it to us
jim
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 28, 2009, 01:19:52 pm
the color isn't the issue here but why are you on a scooter??? :P :P   :P i pictured you in a caddy golf cart

Actually it's a little atv.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 28, 2009, 01:22:31 pm
I thought it was pretty bold talk coming from a man with a pink scooter.

I'm way ahead of ya.....the new camouflage scooter is on it's way.


And just when I thought you were secure in your masculinity, Jay..... :D







I was, until I was being accused of stealing a little girls bike!!!.....and looking like a Shriner!!!
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: VisionQuest220 on May 28, 2009, 01:34:51 pm
But you looked good as a Shriner.
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: ron b on May 28, 2009, 01:53:33 pm
shriner or streaker??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: desertdog on May 28, 2009, 02:10:33 pm
But you looked good as a Shriner.


Nah, I think a Shriner is more Dave's style....

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m288/dolson25/shriner.jpg)



Now streaking on the other hand.....

Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 28, 2009, 02:47:30 pm
Now that's funny right there. I don't care what color your scooter is.....that's funny! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Jaybird on May 28, 2009, 02:49:38 pm
I know later someone could've gotten a DUI on that same Cruisin Cooler (GC man).  :D
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: azkitch on May 28, 2009, 05:39:37 pm
Does Dean photoshop all that awesome food he posts too??
And, back on subject--Once I read a list of all the crap K puts in the Blue Bag stuff, I moved away from it. I might as well start smokin' cigs again as cook on that and eat it. OK, I'm exaggerating. Lots. OTOH, that Rhythm guy seems to have won a contest or two...never mind Jaybird. BlueK does have 6X the ash of anything else I've used, and I'm glad to be away from that. KMart is carrying RO briquettes at about $6 for 18#, and that's good enuf for me. Lately, I've been mixin' RO & RO lump. But like I've complained in other threads, I have my SnP intake vent open about 5/8", and I have 300* in the cooking chamber. I'm gonna try another pizza at that rate. Just open the damper about halfway, and I'll get temps in the mid 500s!!
Kitch
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: desertdog on May 28, 2009, 05:47:12 pm


It may be more expensive, but I have been real happy with the Kingsford Comp.

Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: ron b on May 28, 2009, 05:58:14 pm
i am in the works of making a solar panel cooker so i can end all the BS may even make my own category so ......there!!!!! O0 O0
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Tek465 on May 28, 2009, 09:09:21 pm
i am in the works of making a solar panel cooker so i can end all the BS may even make my own category so ......there!!!!! O0 O0

(http://igargoyle.com/archives/sdl%20_%20c_amp_s%2002.JPG)
(http://igargoyle.com/archives/sdl%20_%20c_amp_s%2005.JPG)

Warning: Do not look into beam with remaining eye. (http://igargoyle.com/archives/2006/07/solar_death_ray_for_hot_dogs.html)
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: force on May 28, 2009, 09:46:28 pm
but does it work on a cloudy day or at night?
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Cornbred on May 29, 2009, 01:42:50 am
Really funny!! i don't even know you guys  and that is hilarious!! almost  looks like a Saturday night live skit!!!
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Mike (AZBarbeque) on May 29, 2009, 03:48:39 am
That is pretty hilarious.  Get a tan and cook at the same time..
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: Lizard333 on May 29, 2009, 06:12:07 am
I have to agree with Jaybird here, why bother with all the fancy gadgets??  To me it seems more like real BBQ if you are out there tending to the fire.  Finished BBQ is only part of the experience.  A BIG part is tending to fire and enjoying the time with family and friends.  I don't mind at all, checking on my flame every now and then. So what if the temp goes a few degrees one way or another for a little while, I don't think a 15 pound brisket is going to get upset.  Like Jaybird said, I feel like I am accomplishing something, kinda old school I guess.

To each his own............  "K" and all...........
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: azkitch on June 01, 2009, 02:12:42 pm
i am in the works of making a solar panel cooker so i can end all the BS may even make my own category so ......there!!!!! O0 O0
(http://igargoyle.com/archives/sdl%20_%20c_amp_s%2002.JPG)
(http://igargoyle.com/archives/sdl%20_%20c_amp_s%2005.JPG)

Warning: Do not look into beam with remaining eye. (http://igargoyle.com/archives/2006/07/solar_death_ray_for_hot_dogs.html)

Izzat the Red Green show?
Title: Re: Why Kingsford??
Post by: force on June 01, 2009, 10:26:15 pm
waiting to see the product