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Skouson

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My dad used to say the only drum question was the one you didn't ask, so here goes:

I have a source for 55 gallon, closed topped, unlined antifreeze drums.  Are there any safety issues in using these drums for a UDS after a good burnout?  I have a lined drum, but am not looking forward to wire brushing the big thing.

Thanks,

Skouson
#1 - December 16, 2009, 06:54:19 am
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Thom Emery

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So it is a metal drum that contained antifreeze
I really do not know if I would trust a burn out to
eliminate all the potential chemical residue
Maybe I am being too cautious
No food grade drums available?
#2 - December 16, 2009, 07:12:08 am
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toys4dlr

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I'm with Thom on the Safety thing.  Heck you can buy a new, unlined drum for $80 or so.  It is worth it for my safety and my family.

Keep to food grade.  I understand that some chemicals actual leach into the drum.
#3 - December 16, 2009, 07:35:16 am
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Yep, keep it food grade. They are out there.
#4 - December 16, 2009, 07:45:27 am

skou

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My dad used to say the only drum question was the one you didn't ask, so here goes:

I have a source for 55 gallon, closed topped, unlined antifreeze drums.  Are there any safety issues in using these drums for a UDS after a good burnout?  I have a lined drum, but am not looking forward to wire brushing the big thing.

Thanks,

Skouson

Sterling, just burn it out.  Use some cheap wood, or some chunk mesquite charcoal.  Don't use any conifer wood.

I'm burning mine out tomorrow.

steve
#5 - December 19, 2009, 02:15:17 pm
Currently cooking with a newly built UDS,(thanks to Skouson, my brother) which is my current best smoker.  I've also got a Weber Performer, also from Sterling.  My brothers think I'm CRAZY.  (Strangely, they're right.)

Spicy Mike

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Not worth taking a chance on the leaching chemicals working their way into your body after cooking on this thing. I got my drums from a winery for free that had maple syrup in them. Who knew they use maple syrup in wine?
Took a good sandblasting to remove the liner but if you can buy them down there for under a hundred bucks why chance it?

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#6 - December 19, 2009, 04:19:29 pm
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skou

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My dad used to say the only drum question was the one you didn't ask, so here goes:

I have a source for 55 gallon, closed topped, unlined antifreeze drums.  Are there any safety issues in using these drums for a UDS after a good burnout?  I have a lined drum, but am not looking forward to wire brushing the big thing.

Thanks,

Skouson

I've done some research.

If you heat up ethylene glycol up to 400 degrees F, it will break down, and not be an issue.  (It turns into ethylene and water.  And, ethylene will evaporate, as well as the water.  Oh, a ripe apple will give off as much ethylene as is left in these barrels.)

Use some of those juniper pieces, and some blue Kingsford, and get it up to temp, and keep it there for an hour.

Oh, I never heard your father say "the only drum..."  (Guys, Sterling is my brother.)

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steve
#7 - December 19, 2009, 10:44:51 pm
Currently cooking with a newly built UDS,(thanks to Skouson, my brother) which is my current best smoker.  I've also got a Weber Performer, also from Sterling.  My brothers think I'm CRAZY.  (Strangely, they're right.)

Crash

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No way...food grade only here.  I agree with Mike, Thom, Jay, and David.
#8 - December 19, 2009, 11:55:49 pm
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toys4dlr

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Brotherly love I see.  Sure, it is ok bro.   :D
#9 - December 20, 2009, 08:30:00 am
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azkitch

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I keep seeing advice on these forums not to burn pine and other conifers--just for burn outs--cuz you can't get the nasty out. But people keep using fuel tanks and oil barrels and everything else. We need a government grant.

So we can do an environmental study, of course
#10 - December 20, 2009, 09:21:12 am
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Skouson

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Thank you all for your responses.  The antifreeze was propylene glycol, not ethylene. How does PG breakdown?

Thanks,

Skouson
#11 - December 23, 2009, 09:32:21 am
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Green Weber One-touch Gold
Black Weber Silver Kettle 22.5"
Red Weber One-Touch Silver 22.5" (The Redhead)
Black Weber Silver 22.5" converted to a gasser pizza oven, on wheels
Weber 1970's vintage Bar-B-Kettle, converted to a rotisserie cooker
Twin UDS: Blue

toys4dlr

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All I'm saying is $80 gets you a brand new, unlined removal top barrel.  No worry on how it "breaks Down"  If I would not eat or drink what was in the it, I would pass. 

And I am cheap, ask my wife.   :D

Plus, at my place, I can't burn out the thing, then grind out the liner.  $80 well spent.
#12 - December 23, 2009, 10:22:41 am
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skou

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Sterling, Wikipedia is your friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

Propylene glycol is also used as a food additive.

steve
#13 - December 23, 2009, 11:14:06 am
Currently cooking with a newly built UDS,(thanks to Skouson, my brother) which is my current best smoker.  I've also got a Weber Performer, also from Sterling.  My brothers think I'm CRAZY.  (Strangely, they're right.)

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All I'm saying is $80 gets you a brand new, unlined removal top barrel.  No worry on how it "breaks Down"  If I would not eat or drink what was in the it, I would pass. 

And I am cheap, ask my wife.   :D

Plus, at my place, I can't burn out the thing, then grind out the liner.  $80 well spent.

I have to agree, I just checked out the MSDS on PG and its not worth it IMO. 

Dave
#14 - December 23, 2009, 01:50:26 pm
Wait until next year!

force

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Ditto what Crash said....... too risky...... sounds like it was made in China......
#15 - December 23, 2009, 10:52:17 pm
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